HOW do I get this thing apart?

[jaybird]

I can't get the spindle off the hub (for the wheel) to take it apart and clean it. And so we can redo the rotor. It's crudded up with 40 years of tar and gook. I've sprayed, twisted, cursed, banged and used the biggest BFH I can find in the garage. It's cost me a nail and an hour. If I could get it apart, I could put the 4 separate parts into the parts washer, use OilEater or whatever.

I've been mucking away at it with a putty knife and I'm DONE. I'm making hardly no progress and I cannot get the bolts to budge.

Sawzall?
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[jaybird]

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[jollyroger]

There is a puller type of device the bolts to the studs and pushes against the spindle as you turn the threaded portion. I have one just for removing the rear hubs from a 49 Willys wagon. Look for something like that.

 

[jaybird]

The other front one isn't as dirty but I'll be dogged if I can get it apart either. I wanted to get something accomplished today. I don't know how I'll get them apart to clean and paint. I guess Chuck can haul them to John's shop tomorrow, he's probably got something like what you're talking about.

I can't even get the nuts off. Aggravating!

 

[jlaird]

Hoho, join the club, the I can't get the bolts off club.

 

[jaybird]

Sawzall. At the very least, angle grinder should shear them babies off.

 

[jaybird]

((I'm glad he said bolts...))

 

[DrEntropy]

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I can't get the spindle off the hub (for the wheel) to take it apart and clean it. And so we can redo the rotor. It's crudded up with 40 years of tar and gook. I've sprayed, twisted, cursed, banged and used the biggest BFH I can find in the garage. It's cost me a nail and an hour. If I could get it apart, I could put the 4 separate parts into the parts washer, use OilEater or whatever.

I've been mucking away at it with a putty knife and I'm DONE. I'm making hardly no progress and I cannot get the bolts to budge.

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Which bolts?!? Four bolts around the spindle holding the rotor to hub? Are the center spindle and wheel bearings apart now? Should be. Step ONE would be a wire wheel and get as much rust/corrosion as possible off that way. Then PB Blaster on the nuts/threads, over and over. Soak 'em for two days. Heat wrench in the form of a propane tourch to heat them, MORE penetrant and mebbe an air wrench and impact socket for added "shock value". That'd be my method.

 

[Banjo]

Impact gun.
Let 'em take it to the shop. It's not worth the aggrivation.
Either there's something hiding that you're not seeing that's holding them togeather, or it requires some special tools (i.e. power tools, or a press)
Either way, find something else to clean up, and send those buggers to the shop.
Then have a glass of wine and shout "So there! nyaaaah!"

 

[DrEntropy]

No presswork, Ben. Just age and rust. The studs are knurled, the nuts are likely just rusted in place after 40 years. I forgot she could pass it off to a shop... PB Blaster, heat and impact wrench... and no more broken nails!

 

[Stewart]

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[jaybird]

Yes the 4 bolts. Buggers won't budge, got the nuts off, but that's as far as it went. I WANTED to have this all done today.

GRRRRRRRRRRR. I have wire brushed them, I have (he has) an impact wrench thingie, not sure about oh yea, we got a blow torch thing, but I'm skeered of it.

 

[DrEntropy]

If the nuts are off it's just corrosion! PB BLaster at the edges where hub joins the rotor and around the studs, soak, soak, soak. THEN have at it with the BFH a bit. If you can get the rotor suspended between a couple concrete blocks, splines down (so the hub is not touching ground underneath) and a 4 or 5 inch piece of 2x4... bash the hub from the back using the 2x4 as a "drift" and the BFH. You've got it to a point where an impact wrench is not useful (I thought the nuts were the prob). Now ya gotta "out-patience" the machine.

EDIT: OH! And cleaning the back side part of the hub as well as possible then sandpaper it to get as much rust off of it as possible, soak that side as well with Blaster where the hub goes thru the rotor..

 

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[DrEntropy]

YIKES!!! Disassemble the stub axle from the hub and disc first. All you want to be handling is the hub and rotor. Undo the...err... "UNDO"... remove the cotter pin (there's a hole in the hub for that to come out/in), remove hub nut, PAY ATTENTION to spacer/SHIMS that are in there... Then hub off and into parts washer. Let it soak in there for a while to remove the crud onna back side. Report back.

 

[DrEntropy]

That assembly you been wrasslin' durn near outweighs ya woman!! SHEESH. You're tough. The hub nut MAY be the only thing holdin' it together now!! WATCH yer TOES!!!

EDIT: Photos are a GOOD THING!!!

 

[jaybird]

Ya it's heavy. But not heavy enough I can't heave the buggers out to the street pretty soon. I don't have PB Blaster but Chuck's probably got something similar.

I can't disassemble anything beyond getting those 4 nuts off. I can't FIND a cotter pin.

Dynamite.

 

[DrEntropy]

Under/inside the "UNDO"!!! Spinner off, down in there is a castellated nut with a cotter pin in it. That is what's holding all together. Wheel bearings, a spacer and some shims in there. Didja read my PM?

EDIT: There's a "cover" just under the spinner with a threaded stud. That pulls out. Thread on it is 1/4" NF if memory serves. ViceGrips work in a pinch.

 

[DrEntropy]

Any other day this'd be on FIRE... I'm dyin' here!!!