I drank a beer and realized I had moved the pulley, so I found the compression stroke and went to the TDC mark and the distributor dropped right in. Duh. I think I am done with TDC and the distributor. The major new finding was the points being too closed. I started and drove a short distance and it would not idle at all and did not run smooth but it does run. I would not take it anywhere like this. So I checked my butterflies again using the pedal and dang it they are not fully opening. They are close but not horizontal. I will check tomorrow but I think they open if I pull the lever in the engine compartment. I know about the bolt under the pedal. I am not sure what else to adjust to get them to open but I will work on it. The butterflies need to open but that cannot be causing my problem (not smooth, lack of power). So, I will pull a plug look at it, disconnect the fuel line and see what comes out and get back on the carbs. Steve - I will have to turn the idle up at the carbs to keep it running but I will then use the knurled knob and do what you say. Isn't timing and dwell the same thing? This is frustrating the heck out of me but I am learning alot. Bruce