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A person who is not a member (and not an LBC owner) sent me an email with an attached picture asking if I could identify the car in the picture. It was apparently taken in the early 1920s in front of his father's birth home in Scotland. Anyone know what this might be? The letters on the grill look like they may end in "son"
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It *may* be a military FIAT 3A, which were built by Italy for the British army in WW1. Note the fit of the bonnet, the sidelights on the windscreen, and the slanting radiator.

Here's a civilian 3A of 1912:

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The owner/operator may have been a driver in the "Royal Scots", service number 3075.

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NutmegCT said:
It *may* be a military FIAT 3A, which were built by Italy for the British army in WW1. Note the fit of the bonnet, the sidelights on the windscreen, and the slanting radiator.

Here's a civilian 3A of 1912:

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The owner/operator may have been a driver in the "Royal Scots", service number 3075.

emphasis on *may*
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The first letter I see in the name on the radiator looks like it has a top loop that could be an upper case P. Then a bit further right, possibly the third letter is a “tall” letter like possibly a lower case “L”. Then ton on the end. Could it be this:

Palmerston (car) - Wikipedia

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This is the only picture I could find that purports to be a Palmerston. There is no lettering on the grill and no headlights, but the top of the radiator is similar and it’s about the same size.

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found thiss on wicky, interesting read, would be rare as hens teeth if one was found


From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Palmerston was a British car made by the Palmerston Motor Company based in Bournemouth, England between 1920 and 1923.
History

The company was founded by the three Bullock brothers who were trading as motor engineers in 1919[1] . In 1920 they founded the Palmerston Motor Company in Palmerston Road, Boscombe with the ambition of building their own range of light cars. The Palmerston car was advertised for sale in late 1920 and exhibited at the London Motor Show by agents Olympic Aeros and Autos also based in Boscombe.[1]

The company was under capitalised and in 1921 was declared bankrupt and sold to new owners Francis Henry Morris and Bertie Francis Plant trading as the Palmerston Lytcar Company.[1] A new larger engined model was designed and called the Palm and sold alongside the Palmerston. In November 1921 the company was sold again and became Palmcars Ltd with Morris and Plant remaining as directors.[1] The company still failed to make money and receivers were appointed in 1922. It was sold to one of the major shareholders, Frederick Goddard[1] but it seems unlikely that any more cars were made.

The total number of cars made is not known with estimates between 30 and 100.[1]

Palmerston Overview
Manufacturer Palmerston Motor Company
Production 1920-1922
Designer Harold Bullock
Body and chassis
Class light car
Body style two seat open
Powertrain
Engine Coventry-Victor twin cylinder [2]
Transmission 3 speed manual
Chronology
Successor none

The Palmerston had a 6-9 hp Coventry-Victor water cooled, flat twin engine driving the rear wheels through a cone clutch, separately mounted three-speed gearbox and bevel geared rear axle. The brakes acted on the rear wheels using a hand lever with the foot brake operating a transmission brake on the drive shaft behind the gearbox. The steel section chassis had quarter-elliptic leaf springs front and rear. The early cars had wire spoked wheels later replaced by steel disc type.

The two-seat body was built in-house from aluminium over a wood frame and supplied with a folding hood (top) and one piece windscreen. Although the first cars featured acetylene lights,[3] a dynamo lighting set was provided by 1921.

The car was advertised at £275.



Palm
Overview
Manufacturer Palmerston Lytcar Company
Production 1922-1923
Body and chassis
Body style two seat open with dickey seat.
Powertrain
Engine Coventry-Victor 9hp twin cylinder
Transmission 3 speed manual

The Palm had a larger 1018 cc engine, still by Coventry-Victor, with a taxation horsepower class of 9 hp. The gearbox was mounted in-unit with the engine and the gear lever centrally placed. The body now featured a dickey seat but it was also possible to buy a bare chassis for the purchaser to mount their own body on.

In early 1922 the car was advertised at £275 and the smaller car had its price cut to £250. By the end of the year, the price had come down to £245 or £215 for a chassis.[



Wow A bare chassis for £215. or for an extra 30 quid they would build and fit a wood framed alluminium body, lights, windscreen, interior and what ever else was needed to complete the car.

A decent headlamp bulb will set you back more than 30 quid these days.
 
Eureka! I wish I could take credit, but actually the individual who originally contacted me has solved his own mystery. The car is a "Richardson", manufactured by C.E. Richardson of Finbat Works, Aizlewood Road, Sheffield between 1919 and 1921! Never heard of it.

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Basil said:
Eureka! I wish I could take credit, but actually the individual who originally contacted me has solved his own mystery. The car is a "Richardson", manufactured by C.E. Richardson of Finbat Works, Aizlewood Road, Sheffield between 1919 and 1921! Never heard of it.
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The one in the picture is registered in its home town of Shefield.
 
Basil said:
Eureka! I wish I could take credit, but actually the individual who originally contacted me has solved his own mystery. The car is a "Richardson", manufactured by C.E. Richardson of Finbat Works, Aizlewood Road, Sheffield between 1919 and 1921! Never heard of it.

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Basil, I took me 2 hours last night on Google to find it. I asked for Scottich cars, no help. I asked for British cars from the 20's and it popped up on Wikipedia. That is after I looked in my Car Encyclopedia from front to back, to no avail. The tires look dangerous!! ha ha Dale in KY
 
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Basil, I took me 2 hours last night on Google to find it. I asked for Scottich cars, no help. I asked for British cars from the 20's and it popped up on Wikipedia. That is after I looked in my Car Encyclopedia from front to back, to no avail. The tires look dangerous!! ha ha Dale in KY
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I didn't realize you were a member here. Glad you solved the mystery.
 
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