My son Grant at 18 in my BJ8 on one of a couple long trips I took with him in the car. We went to Miller Motorsports in Tooele, UT and attended their two-day high performance driving course (he spun out on the track--no bent metal--I think it taught him a lesson). I taught him to drive in the BJ8, but I couldn't talk him into taking his driving test in it (he passed with a near-perfect score in his '96 Cherokee). He's in the Navy now, 'driving' a cruiser in the South China Sea.